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title: "Find a, b, c from time specifications"
subject: "Control Systems"
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# Find a, b, c from time specifications

Control Systems · Chapter 3: System Transfer Function and Responses

- Asked in: 2080 Baisakh, 8 marks
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## Question

For a mechanical system with closed loop transfer function θ(s)/T(s) = 1/(as² + bs + c), where θ(s) is the output of step input T(t) = 10 Nm. Determine values of a, b and c if maximum overshoot is 6%, peak time (tp) = 1 sec, and ess = 0.5.

## Short answer

From steady-state output 0.5 for a 10 Nm step, c=20 Nm/rad. A 6% overshoot yields damping ratio 0.667; peak time 1 s gives natural frequency 4.217 rad/s. Then a=1.125 kg-m^2, b=6.33 Nm-s/rad.

## Answer

Compare the system with the standard second order form. The final value fixes $c$; the overshoot fixes $\zeta$; the peak time then fixes $\omega_n$.

**Interpretation:** "$e_{ss} = 0.5$" is taken as the steady state value of the output, $\theta(\infty) = 0.5$ rad, for the 10 Nm step (the usual reading of this problem, since $\theta$ and $T$ have different units).

$$
\frac{\theta(s)}{T(s)} = \frac{1}{as^2+bs+c} = \frac{1/a}{s^2 + \frac{b}{a}s + \frac{c}{a}}
\;\Rightarrow\;
\omega_n^2 = \frac{c}{a},\quad 2\zeta\omega_n = \frac{b}{a}
$$

#### Step 1: Find $c$ from the steady state
$T(s) = 10/s$. By the final value theorem:
$$
\theta(\infty) = \lim_{s\to 0} s\cdot\frac{10}{s}\cdot\frac{1}{as^2+bs+c} = \frac{10}{c} = 0.5
\;\Rightarrow\; c = 20\ \text{Nm/rad}
$$

#### Step 2: Damping ratio from 6% overshoot
$$
\zeta = \frac{-\ln M_p}{\sqrt{\pi^2 + (\ln M_p)^2}} = \frac{-\ln 0.06}{\sqrt{\pi^2 + (\ln 0.06)^2}} = \frac{2.8134}{\sqrt{9.8696 + 7.9153}} = 0.6671
$$

#### Step 3: Natural frequency from $t_p = 1$ s
$$
t_p = \frac{\pi}{\omega_n\sqrt{1-\zeta^2}}
\;\Rightarrow\;
\omega_n = \frac{\pi}{1\times\sqrt{1 - 0.6671^2}} = \frac{3.1416}{0.7449} = 4.217\ \text{rad/s}
$$

#### Step 4: Find $a$ and $b$
$$
\begin{aligned}
a &= \frac{c}{\omega_n^2} = \frac{20}{4.217^2} = \frac{20}{17.785} = 1.125\ \text{kg-m}^2 \\
b &= 2\zeta\omega_n a = 2(0.6671)(4.217)(1.125) = 6.328\ \text{Nm-s/rad}
\end{aligned}
$$

**Answer:** $a \approx 1.125$ kg-m², $b \approx 6.33$ Nm-s/rad, $c = 20$ Nm/rad.

(If instead $e_{ss} = 10 - \theta(\infty) = 0.5$ is used, then $c = 10/9.5 = 1.053$, $a = 0.0592$, $b = 0.333$; $\zeta$ and $\omega_n$ are unchanged.)

## Check yourself

The answer's key points as multiple-choice questions, with the correct option and why.

1. In the answer, which step fixes the constant c in 1/(as^2+bs+c) for a 10 Nm step with theta(inf) = 0.5?
   A. Final value theorem: theta(inf) = 10/c = 0.5, so c = 20
   B. Peak time equation, c = pi/tp
   C. Overshoot formula, c = Mp x 100
   D. Settling time, c = 4/ts
   Answer: A. For a step of 10 Nm the steady state output is 10/c, so setting it equal to 0.5 gives c = 20 Nm/rad. (Key point: Final value gives c)

2. Which relation gives the damping ratio from the 6% overshoot?
   A. zeta = Mp/100 = 0.06
   B. zeta = -ln(Mp)/sqrt(pi^2 + (ln Mp)^2), about 0.667
   C. zeta = pi/tp = 3.14
   D. zeta = c/(2a) = 10
   Answer: B. Mp = exp(-pi zeta/sqrt(1-zeta^2)) is inverted to give zeta = 0.667. (Key point: Damping ratio from overshoot)

3. With zeta = 0.667 and tp = 1 s, how is wn found?
   A. wn = pi/tp = 3.14 rad/s
   B. wn = 4/(zeta tp) = 6 rad/s
   C. wn = pi/(tp sqrt(1 - zeta^2)) = 4.217 rad/s
   D. wn = sqrt(c) = 4.47 rad/s
   Answer: C. Peak time is pi/wd with wd = wn sqrt(1-zeta^2), so wn = 3.1416/0.7449 = 4.217. (Key point: Natural frequency from peak time)

4. After c = 20 and wn = 4.217, how are a and b obtained from comparing with the standard form?
   A. a = wn^2/c and b = 2 zeta wn
   B. a = c wn^2 and b = zeta wn
   C. a = 1 and b = 2 zeta wn
   D. a = c/wn^2 = 1.125 and b = 2 zeta wn a = 6.33
   Answer: D. Since wn^2 = c/a and 2 zeta wn = b/a, a = c/wn^2 and b = 2 zeta wn a. (Key point: Finding a and b)

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